--- title: "Plant Medicines: The Other Half of How I Got Here" description: "Hamid Jabbar on his years apprenticed to plant medicine traditions in Peru: how he came to ayahuasca and huachuma, and where sound comes into it." url: https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/plant-medicines/ updated: 2026-11-12 language: en format: a Markdown copy of the page at the url above --- # The Other Half of How I Got Here I have spent years apprenticed to plant medicine traditions in Peru, and I still go back. This is an account of what those medicines are, and of what the traditions that hold them do with them. Read how I got there [Return to my story](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/) ## Why These Pages Are Here These pages are here because this is part of my life, and because people find this site looking for exactly this. I write about Ayahuasca and Huachuma in particular, because those are the medicines I have spent real time with. What is here is a description of what they are, an account of how the traditions I learned in work with them, and what I saw and went through myself. All of my own work with these medicines has been in the countries whose traditions hold them, which is where it is lawful and where there is somebody to learn from. ![Hamid in a rain jacket beside a large jungle tree, a cut length of ayahuasca vine propped against the trunk](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/media/hamid-ayahuasca-vine-jungle-1600.jpg) ### On the Claims You Will Read Elsewhere A great deal of what is written about these medicines is either sensationalized or sold. The traditions that hold them do give them for the hardest things people bring, including serious illness, and I am comfortable telling you that because it is an account of what those traditions do. Anybody who turns that into a promise about your own outcome is telling you something they cannot know. ![Hamid standing in the smoke of a palo santo bath, wearing a robe printed with Shipibo pattern](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/media/hamid-palo-santo-smoke-1600.jpg) ## Peru, and the Years That Followed I came to this the way I came to Thai massage, which is by going where it is actually practiced and staying long enough to be taught rather than shown. In the Amazon that meant time at a center outside Iquitos, and it meant apprenticing in the Shipibo tradition, which is hands off in the literal sense: nobody touches you. That is the part that surprises people. In a Shipibo ceremony you are on a mat in the dark and the person leading sings, and the singing is the work. Help comes if you ask for it. It is not hands off in the other sense, of allowing people to have their own experience: the tradition has a strong view of what is happening to you, the songs and the teaching carry it, and with the medicine open in you, you take it in, which is either the most useful thing about it or the hardest, depending on the night. That apprenticeship began in 2018. At the same time I started working and learning from a teacher in the Andes, in the Red Road tradition with Huachuma, and that is the teacher I have continued with since. ### Why I Kept Going Back It was not a single trip that changed anything. It was returning, over years, and each time understanding a little more of what I had been sitting inside the previous time. That is the same shape my years in Chiang Mai took, and it is the reason both halves of this history sit under the same heading. I still go to Peru, and I still work with this medicine. This is current life rather than a closed chapter, which is the only reason I am comfortable writing about it at all. ### Where Sound Comes Into It The thing that carries a ceremony is sound. In the Shipibo tradition it is the icaro, sung by the person leading, and it is the instrument. Sitting in the dark with nothing to look at, hearing someone work with voice alone for hours, is the closest thing I know to what a room does when the gongs are going. I did not arrive at sound work from ceremony, and I would not claim the two are the same. But I stopped being surprised that they ended up in the same life. [Explore sound](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/sound/) ## Ayahuasca and Huachuma Are *Not* Versions of Each Other They get spoken about together and they are not much alike. **Ayahuasca** is a brew, it is worked with at night, and in the traditions I sat in it is an inward and largely solitary night even in a room full of people. **Huachuma** is a cactus, it is most often worked with through a whole day outdoors, and it is sociable in a way an Ayahuasca ceremony is not. If you only ever read that one is stronger than the other, you have been reading marketing. They are different in kind, and each page here describes one of them properly. > “We invite you to explore these topics with an open mind, as much of the information about these medicines is misleading or sensationalized.” > > Hamid ## The Rest of This History [Read Hamid's story](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/) ### Ayahuasca What the brew is, how a Shipibo ceremony runs, and the risks to know before anybody talks you into anything. [Read about Ayahuasca](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/ayahuasca/) ### Huachuma The cactus most people know as San Pedro, a day long medicine, and the one you may already have growing in your garden. [Read about Huachuma](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/huachuma-san-pedro/) ### Yoga and Ayahuasca Two maps describing the same territory, and why so many yoga practitioners end up in the Amazon. [Read how the two meet](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/yoga-ayahuasca/) ### Thai Massage The other half of the history: Chiang Mai, the teacher who took my technique apart, and the years of bodywork that came before the gongs. [Read about Thai massage](https://www.hamidjabbar.com/about/thai-massage/)